This phrase refers to a type of tackle where the defender makes contact with both the opposing player and the ball. It’s often seen as a strong, physical challenge.
- If the ball is played first, the tackle may be considered fair.
- If the player is hit first, it’s usually called a foul.
- A variation, “ball and man”, can be used to describe a tackle where the ball was touched before the opposing player was touched, knocked over—suggesting fairness.
- The phrase is in a grey area, and decisions depend on the referee’s interpretation.
- Pundits often defend such tackles by saying “the ball was there to be won”, implying the challenge was justified even if it resulted in contact.

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